I may have to make a separate list of “oh, to have the privilege of being a fly on the wall for this conversation” podcast episodes.
Ben Hunt is the market/political game-theorist extraordinaire. JP O’Shaugnnessy is one of the original quant investors. The talk is supposed to be centered on the metaverse, but they cover everything from evolutionary biology to how Hunt helped raise funds for the education department while earning his PhD from Harvard (this story is worth the listen alone).
Check out episode 106 of the Infinite Loops podcast, “Ben Hunt – Preserving the Physical Metaverse.”