Podcast Of The Week: Rick Rubin And Rory Sutherland

How many times have I talked about Rick Rubin? Click here. One of my favorite producers of all time. The guy knows how to LISTEN.

What about Rory Sutherland? Click here. One of my favorite marketers. Modern David Ogilvy. And a source of so much behavioral economics and evolutionary psychology – I so adore him.

Can’t believe they had a 3 hour+ conversation.

It’s a book (!!!), but if you click those links, you’ll know why I was so excited.