For years, I've been connecting with interesting people and documenting insights that might help my clients and myself. What was once private is now (mostly) public.

People often ask: "How do you know all these people?" and "How do you connect these (re: random) ideas?" The answer is simple: consistent relationship cultivation and thoughtful note taking. My north star is trusting my instincts, my maps are the constellations in these reflections.

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Introducing... Shannon Nutter!

Do you know Shannon Nutter? She's a strategic advisor, a board director, and the founder of My Classroom Economy, and the co-author, with prior Just Press Record guest Julia Carreon, of Walking on Broken Glass: Navigating the Aftermath of the Glass Ceiling.

If not, allow me to introduce you. After a career in male-dominated fields (Deloitte, automotive, and Vanguard), Shannon calls herself a recovering corporate America veteran. She and Julia wrote the book candidly so women can see that what they're experiencing isn't just them. It's a system, and there are practical ways to help yourself and, more importantly, each other.

I wanted to connect with her because she embodies something I value deeply: the willingness to take ideas that start on the inside and carry them out into the world, framed in a systemic context so others can recognize them too.

Our conversation, with fellow guest Ashley Quamme, is LIVE now on the Just Press Record YouTube channel (and this Cultish Creative Playlist). Listen and you'll hear us dig into the "but" that follows a compliment, how calibration meetings reward outcomes for some people and personality for others, and why you should practice the hard line in the car before you need it.

THREE: That's The Magic Number of Lessons

In the meantime, I wanted to pull THREE KEY LESSONS from my time with Shannon Nutter to share with you (and drop into my Personal Archive).

Read on and you'll find a quote with a lesson and a reflection you can Take to work with you, Bring home with you, and Leave behind with your legacy.

WORK: Practice The Line In The Car

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"You have to have some of those phrases at the ready that sound like you, that you feel comfortable delivering, that you aren't sitting there in the moment thinking, 'Oh my God, what I just heard was so biased. How do I counter it? How do I address it in some way, shape, or form that doesn't put the other person on the defensive?' And if you're trying to come up with that at the moment, you are probably not going to be very successful. But if you already have it at the ready, and you've said it a few times in your car, or to a friend, or a colleague, and you've both thought about it, you're going to be much more prepared and much more effective in that situation."

-Shannon Nutter, Just Press Record on Cultish Creative YouTube

Key Concept: Shannon's point is that the right words are almost impossible to invent under pressure, so you find them beforehand. The phrase has to sound like you and avoid putting the other person on the defensive. Rehearsing it out loud, even alone in a car, turns a freeze into a response.

Personal Archive Note-To-Self: One of the hardest lessons to learn at work is that you have to remember the prior lessons and be ready to use them. This is such a simple but brilliant insight and, even if I was a little ham-fisted on bringing it up in the interview (of course I left my copy of the book downstairs), I'm glad we got it out.

Knowing what you'll say when a topic comes up, or an inappropriate expression, framing, or definition gets applied, is half the battle, especially for me. Sometimes you get flat footed and the conversation moves on before you can think anything up. This is an antidote for that, especially in places where you are trying to make a positive impact, and coming in from a place of awareness.

When I was in the far more corporate setting at my prior job, I was struggling to figure this out. I was doing it, at the same time, in therapy for all sorts of other life stuff, too, but this is the advice I needed to hear to help me in those situations. It's as simple as knowing when x happens I'll do y, and a little preparation can go a long way.

Work question for you: What's one phrase you wish you'd had ready the last time a meeting went sideways, and can you say it out loud once this week?

LIFE: Period, Full Stop, No "But"

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"We literally could not remember a time when we had heard a woman described as just right. Somebody saying, 'Oh, Ashley, she's really smart and capable, and her teams love her because she's empathetic, but she sets a high bar and really gets things done.' Period, full stop, end of story, no but, dot, dot, dot. But sometimes she's a little loud. Sometimes she's a little too much. Sometimes she's got sharp elbows, right? I mean, those kinds of add-ons that serve to diminish women in particular... she's great, but if only she could fit my ideal."

-Shannon Nutter, Just Press Record on Cultish Creative YouTube

Key Concept: Women are often perceived as too much or too little, and everyone's version of "just right" is different, so nobody can hit it for every person. Shannon and her co-author Julia Carreon noticed the pattern shows up in the "but" that follows the praise. The compliment lands, then the add-on quietly walks it back. Listening for that "but" is the first step toward dropping it.

Personal Archive Note-To-Self: There's an element of this conversation, where because I didn't go the normal education route for business people, and certainly because of my music/arts experience, I am seeing and learning words for situations that needed to be fully formed in my brain. Not because I haven't encountered them exactly, but because it's different to be this engaged in a conversation versus reading a book about it.

The last time I was this engaged was probably in college. The school I was at had a lot of music education majors, and maybe unsurprisingly, that skewed female in the early 2000s. Gender pay gap debates and stuff like that. We had it. The orchestra hiring study (that's in Shannon's book) was something we discussed at length. And then, I would hear and read about stuff like this, but I wasn't engaged in conversation about it, and I feel that gap talking to Shannon and Ashley.

The observation and curiosity to notice what's happening and talk about it matters. And when it's not happening to you, or in your face, you might not think about it every day, which I'm feeling reading this book and writing this note. I like that reminder for myself.

You have to be engaged to keep your attention in place and I'm grateful for this conversation. I'll take all the reminders to keep listening for the "but" after the compliment.

Life Question For You: Who in your life gets described with a "but," and what would it sound like to say the first half and stop there?

LEGACY: Be The Leader You Know You Need

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"You become a leader, and you're consciously or subconsciously probably mimicking the bosses you've seen, and you've not seen very many at that point... I think you also see who looks like a great role model. They present themselves as a great role model, but in practice they don't live up to what their image is... I feel like I have a much more mature understanding of what makes a good role model today. Certainly I think your image should match what you do in practice... I would hope that more people would be the kind of leader they wish they had. Not the kind of leader necessarily that they see in the world, but the kind of leader they know they personally need. That's probably the kind of leader that other people need as well. You know, people who are not just driving for business outcomes, but are human and vulnerable and kind and caring, and also deliver great results, right?"

-Shannon Nutter, Just Press Record on Cultish Creative YouTube

Key Concept: Early in a career, we copy the bosses we've seen, and we haven't seen many. With experience, Shannon learned to tell apart the people who look like role models from the ones whose practice matches their image. Her answer is to build the leader you personally needed rather than imitate the leaders you see in the world. That leader is probably what the people around you need too.

Personal Archive Note-To-Self: I know corporate leader is the idea that will jump off the page for people with this quote, but I see it as so much more than that. While thought leader makes me choke a little, I do think it matters here, because it establishes who is leading the leaders by giving leaders something to talk about. Shannon and Julia's work in this book is really doing that in public. Ashley is doing it - literally, with Beyond the Plan, too, which is a big part of why I wanted to get them introduced.

The quote brings that idea home for me. I remember how I'd constantly be saying, "just because they hazed us doesn't mean we have to haze the next generation" at work. It was when I moved from being the most junior role to existing in a non-senior layer. Oh, was I still naive. Just like high school sports, most seniors just can't resist the power trip.

The solution - which kinda sucks to admit - is we be the change we want to see, OR we leave and then do it elsewhere. I opted for the latter, personally, and if this doesn't sum up most of the Corporate America problem in the quote, I don't know what does. The world needs people who will stand up and lead with what we wish our prior leaders gave to us. It's in short supply. I'm glad Shannon's here and sharing all this.

Legacy question for you: What kind of leader do you personally need right now, and what's one way you could be that for someone else?

BEFORE YOU GO: Be sure to…

  • Connect with Shannon Nutter on LinkedIn

  • Get Walking on Broken Glass: Navigating the Aftermath of the Glass Ceiling, co-written with Julia Carreon, on Amazon or from the publisher

  • Explore her author website, home to her earlier middle-grade novels

  • Take a moment to reflect on all these ideas!

You have a Personal Network and a Personal Archive just waiting for you to build them up stronger. Look at your work, look at your life, and look at your legacy - and then, start small in each category. Today it's one person and one reflection. Tomorrow? Who knows what connections you'll create.

Don't forget to click reply/click here and tell me who you're adding to your network and why! Plus, if you already have your own Personal Archive too, let me know, I'm creating a database.

Want more? Find my Personal Archive on CultishCreative.com, watch me build a better Personal Network on the Cultish Creative YouTube channel, and listen to Just Press Record on Spotify or Apple Podcasts, and follow me on social media (LinkedIn and X) - now distributed by Epsilon Theory.

You can also check out my work as Managing Director at Sunpointe, as a host on top investment YouTube channel Excess Returns, and as Senior Editor at Perscient.

ps. AI helped me pull and organize quotes from the transcript, structure the three lessons, and sharpen the Key Concepts. If you're curious about how I use AI while keeping editorial control and my own voice intact, I wrote about my personal rules here: Did AI Do That: Personal Rules